[Disintegrate]

Racist attacks in India? That's a first. Racism is everywhere. It doesn't mean that it has to be tolerated. You are blindly patriotic, Jeepster. You would defend your country men even if they go around killing innocent students and say racism occurs in India. Surely, not all attacks are racially motivated. The fact is many are. I am not saying all Aussies are racists. There are racist elements in Australia. You may once again say that racism is everywhere. But, the fact doesn't change. There are radical elements in your society.

There are 97,000 Indian students in Australia. It's the duty of the Government of Australia to protect these students.

Here's a great piece by Gerard Henderson of SMH - http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/a-bruised-relationship-with-india-20090601-bsv5.html?page=1

LATEST NEWS TODAY : Gurudwara vandalized and another Indian student knifed.

[EvilBob]

Disintegrate wrote:

There are racist elements in Australia. You may once again say that racism is everywhere. But, the fact doesn't change. There are radical elements in your society.

There are. And I don't trust the police saying some attacks aren't racially motivated. How can they know that? Australia has a dark undercurrent of xenophobia that it doesn't like to look too closely at.

[Disintegrate]

EvilBob wrote:

Disintegrate wrote: There are racist elements in Australia. You may once again say that racism is everywhere. But, the fact doesn't change. There are radical elements in your society. There are. And I don't trust the police saying some attacks aren't racially motivated. How can they know that? Australia has a dark undercurrent of xenophobia that it doesn't like to look too closely at.

Yeah. The opposition in the parliament has slammed the Government and the police. I would hate to see more deaths from now be it an australian student or an Indian student.

I just saw an interview with one of the victims who was stabbed. He talks about how the mob included even 13 year old kids who threw bottles at him and shouted "Indian Paki". I hope they are bought to justice.

[Disintegrate]

70 percent drop in the admission to schools in Australia from my hometown of Bangalore. Last year, Indian students spent 415 million US dollars in Australia. In this time of recession, it will hit Australia badly. Measures taken by Australian schools to reduce fees to lure students. India is one of the countries where the magnitude of the global recession is not as bad as the other countries.

Diplomacy should continue to bring an end to these attacks. However, the long term goal for India is to build much better quality schools in India itself. 415 million US dollars if spent in the domestic market would be great for India.

[Jeepster]

Disintegrate wrote:

Racist attacks in India? That's a first. Racism is everywhere. It doesn't mean that it has to be tolerated. You are blindly patriotic, Jeepster. You would defend your country men even if they go around killing innocent students and say racism occurs in India. Surely, not all attacks are racially motivated. The fact is many are. I am not saying all Aussies are racists. There are racist elements in Australia. You may once again say that racism is everywhere. But, the fact doesn't change. There are radical elements in your society. There are 97,000 Indian students in Australia. It's the duty of the Government of Australia to protect these students. Here's a great piece by Gerard Henderson of SMH - http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/a-bruised-relationship-with-india-20090601-bsv5.html?page=1 LATEST NEWS TODAY : Gurudwara vandalized and another Indian student knifed.

Disintegrate if you bothered reading what I said instead of accusing me of defending the attackers.
As you put it they're radical elements in my country, have a good look around the world mate including your country because it's there too. So stop making out that Australia only have racists because it's everywhere including your country even if you're to blind to see it. They only things that pisses me off is racism and people who think it's just in my country and not in theirs.
Take a look there is racist elements in you country too but only thing is you don't want people to know.

[Jeepster]

[quote="Disintegrate"]70 percent drop in the admission to schools in Australia from my hometown of Bangalore. Last year, Indian students spent 415 million US dollars in Australia. In this time of recession, it will hit Australia badly. Measures taken by Australian schools to reduce fees to lure students. India is one of the countries where the magnitude of the global recession is not as bad as the other countries.

Diplomacy should continue to bring an end to these attacks. However, the long term goal for India is to build much better quality schools in India itself. 415 million US dollars if spent in the domestic market would be great for India.[/quote

Well Australia isn't in a recession and our enconomy is actually improving (they only country that's happened) while the rest of the world is still in a recession. So I doubt the impact of the Indian students leaving here won't impact on the Australian economy as you claimed. It's sad that some students are giving in to the fear of attacks and leaving Australia, the can get attacked in any country even their own.

[EvilBob]

Jeepster wrote:

Well Australia isn't in a recession and our enconomy is actually improving (they only country that's happened) while the rest of the world is still in a recession.

That's not quite the case. Yesterday's GDP figure was very slightly positive, but for just about every other indicator, the economy is in recession. See here. I'm not an economist, but we're not really much better off than anywhere else. And this shouldn't be an economic debate. Racism should be acted against because that's the right thing to do, not because it's worth money.

[Disintegrate]

Jeepster wrote:

Well Australia isn't in a recession and our enconomy is actually improving (they only country that's happened) while the rest of the world is still in a recession. So I doubt the impact of the Indian students leaving here won't impact on the Australian economy as you claimed. It's sad that some students are giving in to the fear of attacks and leaving Australia, the can get attacked in any country even their own.

You have all your facts wrong. Only someone as delusional as yourself would believe that Australia is the only country where economy is improving.

[Disintegrate]

ANDREW SYMONDS SENT HOME

Andrew Symonds' career has had its share of controversial moments. Cricinfo takes a look at the incidents.


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June 2005
Turns up drunk to the one-day match against Bangladesh in Cardiff and after Australia lose he is banned for two matches. In Roy, Going for Broke he said: "I was also told in the clearest possible terms that any further misdemeanours would see me sent packing. For good."

March 2006
Asks a Super14 rugby player to "take it outside" while at a nightclub during Australia's tour of South Africa. "I was on my way out of the VIP area when Pup [Michael Clarke] zoomed in to steer me away and calm things down," Symonds said.

2007 World Cup
In the Caribbean there's an attempt to set Symonds up. "I walked out of a nightspot and a bloke ran across the car park and slapped me in the face as we were walking into a taxi," he told the Sydney Morning Herald. "He had a bloke with a camera behind him. You get to a point where you work very hard to achieve something and when you look at it, you've got so much to lose if you make a bad mistake. You have to spare a thought - stop, and have a think - every now and then to try and prevent problems."

January 2008
Is the victim of an alleged "monkey" sledge from Harbhajan Singh at the SCG that turns into the biggest incident of the summer. Harbhajan escaped suspension on appeal and the fall-out, intense glare and feelings of being let down by Cricket Australia contributed to his problems over the past four months.

August 2008
Goes fishing in Darwin instead of attending a team meeting and is sent home before the one-day series against Bangladesh. He undergoes rehabilitation, which includes psychiatric help, and later admits he drank too much at times in the lead-up to the suspension.

November 2008
After apologising to his team-mates and undergoing a "welfare programme", he comes back into the side for the first Test against New Zealand. At the end of the match he goes to a Brisbane hotel where he claims he was provoked by a member of the public. He is back at the team accommodation by 9.30pm.

January 2009
On the mend from knee surgery, Symonds calls Brendon McCullum a "lump of s..." during a radio interview on a show known for its light-hearted nature. Symonds was referring to McCullum's signing for New South Wales to play in a domestic Twenty20 final when he made the comment.

Symonds publicly apologised and was fined A$4000 at a Cricket Australia hearing. His international career was left in doubt when Cricket Australia's directors ruled that he should be stood down from the tour of South Africa, resulting in him missing a second straight overseas tour.

June 2009
Although overlooked for the Ashes, Symonds' powerful strokeplay was deemed an asset for the ICC World Twenty20 and he was given a final opportunity to prove himself. Instead he was disciplined on the eve of the tournament for another "alcohol-related issue" and sent home to Australia after an episode described by Cricket Australia's CEO James Sutherland as "the final straw".

[Disintegrate]

LATEST NEWS : Another Indian student attacked in Melbourne. This time, the victim - Amrit Singh fought back and broke one of the attacker's nose. However, was beaten up by 4 attackers. It happened in broad daylight.

[Jeepster]

Disintegrate wrote:

Jeepster wrote: Well Australia isn't in a recession and our enconomy is actually improving (they only country that's happened) while the rest of the world is still in a recession. So I doubt the impact of the Indian students leaving here won't impact on the Australian economy as you claimed. It's sad that some students are giving in to the fear of attacks and leaving Australia, the can get attacked in any country even their own. You have all your facts wrong. Only someone as delusional as yourself would believe that Australia is the only country where economy is improving.

Interesting that you scoop to name calling to get your point across.

[malo]

racisme is everywhere , but black people use the racisme word more often wich sucks !!

[Disintegrate]

axel2503 wrote:

racisme is everywhere , but black people use the racisme word more often wich sucks !!

Well. to be fair to the people of African American and African origin, they have faced racial discrimination more than anyone else.

The sad thing is we live in a generation of hope, change, Obama etc. So, it's sad that racism is still a glaring reality in this world.

Australia had the absolutely retarded White Australia policy. Things have changed now. They've banned that retarded policy. Australia is now very much a multi cultural, forward thinking community. It's really sad that these radical elements are indulging in such nonsense.

[malo]

but that's all in the past , the modern young moslims should know better , they should know that they don't get fired b/c of their skin color or their religion etc. ...

up here the immigrants have more rights and they are allowed alot more than us citizens , off course there are people who will get p*ssed off and then stuff like this happens .i'm not a racist at all , but i just want everyone to be treated the same way

[SavageSpirit]

Disintegrate wrote:

Well. to be fair to the people of African American and African origin, they have faced racial discrimination more than anyone else.

Actually, the Native Americans (who were here first) have just as much racial discrimination as blacks.

[Jeepster]

It was on the news last night that an Australian was attacked by a group of Indians, they didn't say if they were students or not but I bet you that news didn't make it to India media.

[Jeepster]

axel2503 wrote:

racisme is everywhere , but black people use the racisme word more often wich sucks !!

That's what I've been telling Disintegrate that racism is everywhere but he just likes telling me how racist the Australian society is. I don't think he wants to admit that even in his own country racism does exist. Even our cricket player Andrew Symonds gets racially abused by some Indian and Pakistan and I think also Sri Lanka fans, he isn't white but that doesn't stop them from racially abusing him.

[malo]

i'm sure if i as a white female would go to india , i would be treated differently , especially if i'm showing to much skin ... or not disintegrate ?
my pakistani bro in law has 2 kitchens , one for the pig eaters ( that's us !!) and one for the moslims . i don't mind i'm not the one who has to clean them .

[Disintegrate]

Jeepster wrote:

axel2503 wrote: racisme is everywhere , but black people use the racisme word more often wich sucks !! That's what I've been telling Disintegrate that racism is everywhere but he just likes telling me how racist the Australian society is. I don't think he wants to admit that even in his own country racism does exist. Even our cricket player Andrew Symonds gets racially abused by some Indian and Pakistan and I think also Sri Lanka fans, he isn't white but that doesn't stop them from racially abusing him.

Wow. I am just binging this discussion up because this is in the news. I know racism is everywhere. There are plenty of evils in the Indian society.

I never said Australian society is racist. There are radical elements and it's very disturbing that they are going around and beating up students.

[Disintegrate]

axel2503 wrote:

i'm sure if i as a white female would go to india , i would be treated differently , especially if i'm showing to much skin ... or not disintegrate ? my pakistani bro in law has 2 kitchens , one for the pig eaters ( that's us !!) and one for the moslims . i don't mind i'm not the one who has to clean them .

There are plenty of muslims who eat pork and drink beer.

What exactly do you mean by getting treated differently?